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Can someone be a non-literal christian?


I think I'm slowly finding my faith again (or beliefs) and steadily believe that it's a good thing, mainly for moral reasons. However, there are somethings in the bible I just can't accept, these are the stories, and they just seem so far-fetched and un-true. The question is, can I be a non-literal christian? I believe that most of the book is bullcrap that's been taken out of context by god-fearing types who read too much into it. It's written to help guide us is how I read into it.
Maybe I should start my own church 'The Non-Literal Christian's Church where we believe most of what's written is fiction'.

I guess I've always needed something to guide me and humanism and the belief in nothingness, isn't it anymore. Humanism isn't all bad though I guess, but there must be some divine creator. Either that or we're all part of 'Earth' the popular computer game from Marklar, off of the Marklar Marklar planet penisula.

Any thoughts on the subject of religion and beliefs? After all you do come from a very religious area.
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Hmmm. Haven't researched my name? Revelations 9:11.

Non-literal Christianity. That's sort of what I've been practicing these past years. Somehow I find it comforting to believe there is something greater than what we know. That something could be called God, it could be called a "karma bank", the never-ending Kubrick film, or whatever may suit you. In the case of the Earth game, He would say "lo, I am the End User and the Programmer. Let there be Save Slots."

Of course, I hear entirely too much religious rhetoric in my part of the world. In fact, it once upset me to the extent that I avoided churches and laughed at the very mention of things Christian. This feeling led me to choose my nickname, "abaddon", because I very much hated Christianity. I no longer hate the religion, because I've noticed that the Bible contains great wisdom alongside words that have harmed most of mankind. However, I don't attend church services, nor do I think about Jesus. Perhaps I'm more a monotheist than a Christian. And I do not think the Earth and mankind were the product of "intelligent design".

About the church: I've seen them do great things in the community. I've only seen a few churches on a few ocassions venture into politics. In fact, I support churches as a valuable part of any community regardless of the idealogy. I've also noticed that many churches don't enforce a strict code of morality, but rather a general goodness. There are exceptions.

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I think I'm on the same level as you, not in the earth game but in our shared beliefs. Like you, I find there is much to be learnt from the words within the bible that can help inspire and guide, however I think that it shouldn't be taken literally like some mad people read into it. Plus, I also agree that the church is important for communities. For me it's slightly different though, my original beliefs were put upon me by my father and for about five-ten years I had to go to church (i was even a alter boy, get that!), so I was indoctrinated into the anglo-catholic church. I don't have a problem with that now, but when I was a teenager Its what made me an all out athiest for some time. Back when I went to church they were near on empty anyway, the only people there were the oldies. Nowadays, I don't know. I haven't set foot in a church in five years and don't intend to for some time. I expect a lot of the old people are dead, so the place is emptier. The only way these churches here will fill up again is through mass feeble-mindednuss from our chav (look that up) lower-lower-lower class or an outbreak of bird-flu, or at worst a nuclear war. The church is harmless, jesus is harmless, its the people that overly preach and cannot rationalise those stories in the bible. There is truth to a lot of em i'M sure but some are just too outrageous. NOAH, need I say anything more!

Anyways, is there an afterlife? Atheists say not. Humanists say not. I say maybe. But then again, what about the ants, don't they have an afterlife? There live like us, in a there little societies with class, [sign in to see URL] maybe even beliefs. The ants, oh the ants. We talk about genocides, but what about the wrongs I have done to the ants. Some I kept as pets, will that redeem me from the ant god, or the UN Ant-Genocide committee? Some I hit with hammers though, or squashed under my steel toe capped boots. At other times I even used aerosol cans and sprayed there little holes in the ground, then lit and thousands must have been burnt [sign in to see URL] died, and went to ant heaven? I wonder. We can learn a lot from ants.


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About the afterlife, I don't know. I lean towards not thinking there is such a thing.

Second thing, kill the ants. Trust me on this. You may think that each ant death is tallied against you, but consider that ants can be harmful creatures, not to mention that they might be unclean. I've repaired damage to houses that have been harmed by ants. Kill them. All. I wouldn't worry over killing an animal, unless the death is especially useless or unnecessary. Fox hunting for example seems very cruel and unnecessary, excluding instances of over-population.

The ant afterlife is reserved for ants only.

Family Guy rules South Park, but both destroy Futurama with ease.

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I changed my mind. About Family Guy. I wasn't aware that at some point, the style of humor changed. Family Guy is evil. Cruel. I recently watched an episode and didn't laugh once. I won't watch anymore.

Of course, I haven't seen South Park in years.

Oh, and the ants: I was kidding about them. You will BURN for every tiny one of them that you harm. I suppose you eat beef, too?

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Good for you. I've never liked family [sign in to see URL]. It's far too smug for my liking. I imagine there all in it for the money. South Park on the other hand is just brilliant. I love the way they tackle current events with anologies in every other show. Trust me, if you haven't seen it in a while just go back and watch a few of the new episodes cause it's changed a lot since the first three seasons. It is a thoughtful and intelligent show.
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And about this non-literal christian thing - I believe what I am, would be considered near to deism - a rational person, who disregards mysticism but believes in a supreme being - a god. Some of the founding fathers of America were deists btw. It's worth reading up on. here's a wikipedia link [sign in to see URL]

And the beef thing. Since BSE or mad cow syndrome I've hardly touched it. Yet have the ocassional Burger whenever.

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Yeah. I was previously aware of the founding father's religious notions. Unfortunately, it's something that is always mentioned as new information, because zealots constantly try to shape the facts to say that the "spirit of the law" or the "intent of the founding fathers" is with whatever inane cause is being promoted. Oddly enough, conservative judges in America are sometimes called "orginalists". Some people can't imagine that, had the founding fathers lived for several hundred years, they would've found ways to improve the US Constitution.

The document says all men are equal. It's amended to say all people(men AND WOMEN) are equal. Then more is added: all people are equal including black people. That is a seemingly unnecessary exercise in law-writing, yet people are insane to the extent that it's all very necessary. Many reach adulthood and lead otherwise productive lives without possessing the basic skills needed to interpret reading. The next amendment will read: All people are equal including illegal immigrants from Mexico.

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Don't tell the Moo God that you know me because I've sent many of his family home frowning.



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Moo?

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yeah.. I speak cow too. MOO-moo-MOO

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