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I WOULD GLADLY SACRIFICE LIBERTY FOR FREEDOM!!!! And I love BB. He was British-you know, like some folks around here. Wave for the camera, Alex.

Seriously, the footage of Bush sitting with the children while the planes were hitting their targets should be abandoned. It doesn't prove anything. Best advice to future documentarians: stick to the facts. It actually seems that Bush is very surprised and perhaps scared when told about the second plane hitting WTC. If not genuine, his visible discomfort underlines how this man has been woefully underestimated by his political opponents. De Niro at any point in his career could hardly emote as much without yelling aloud.

It also disturbs me when the docs use "The Man On The Street" to support whatever thesis within the film. Trust me, you can find someone to say whatever you want. My ears have heard some truly frightening statements over the years. On that note, I heard a Bush Planned 9/11 Theory within months of the attacks. Of course, the speakers presented no evidence, nor supporting sources. So I responded by saying "you're crazy", and the conversation then turned to other issues...

Anyways, I'm left with one burning question, that if answered may unravel the mysteries of 7/7: Who ordered, planned, carried out, or was notified about the security drills in advance? There should be an official record compiled of all persons that had foreknowledge of the drills, from those that were officially notified to those that heard about the event secondhand. Then send all named persons to the vacation resort and casino at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. I guarantee much truth and stitches. Okay, ignore the last part.

Have you seen the Bohemian Grove/Jones Witch Project/Last Masonic Lodge On The Left doc?

BTW: I recently saw Terry Alexander in a commercial for heartburn medicine. As he pimped the pills in a soothing tone, I imagined the speech that John gave Sarah in Day, about how nothing mattered.

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Glad you watched it, Mike. I thought it was a decent Jones doc. And he's really the only conspiracy theorist I can stand, cause unlike the others he brings in fact.
Anyways, I've been thinking. I'm in two mind about this 9/11, 7/7 conspiracy lark, but today just after reading you post came the word 'polarity'. That's it I thought, four scale polarity. Now let me explain:
Rational - OFFICIAL - Irational - BONKERS
The rational conspiracy theorist will look for the facts. He will scan the news, mainstream or local. He'll find these facts. For example, for 9/11 one smoking gun is the NORAD wargames and for 7/7 we have a similar NORAD-like thing going on with these drills. For him, the likelyhood of these two similar in style drills happening on the same day as an attack is far from a coincidence.
The official story conspiracy theorists are in the news media. They stick to the basics and get all there evidence either from footmen on the ground or from the government. For example, 19 terrorists hijacked planes and flew planes in buildings because they hate the west. END [sign in to see URL]'s all they'll go on about. However, for some reason they ignore the smoking guns which indicate a true conspiracy like the 9/11 NORAD wargames and the 7/7 drills.
The irational conspiracy theorists are speculative, they examine TV footage for indications of say, er, freemasons with the all seeing eye triangle. However, in doing this they move away from the hardcore evidence of a real conspiracy such as the 7/7 drills.
And finally, the stark-raving mad 'bonkers' conspiracy theorist is much like the irrationalist, just more irrational. He'll look at the TV screen of an event like 9/11 and search for a flying saucer with little green men inside.

Any thoughts?

A rational answer for why 9/11 and 7/7 happened: Stability. Put simply, these attacks were allowed to happen and the people who died were sacrificed in the name of the currupt power that is the so-called 'democratic' west. What has been gained from these events? Power over territory in the middle-east and its resources and millions of sheep back home. What's been lost? Democracy itself. The idea that people, everyone has a say in what happens in their country. For example, 1 Million people marched through the streets of London to try and bring about resolve in the build up to Iraq war in 2003. They were ignored.

Any thoughts?
sorry about spl mistakes btw. wrote this quickly.
and btw what this mean? ----"And I love BB." who?
And yeah i've seen that bohemium (sp?) jones thing. emoticon

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Big Brother. He's watching you, Alex.

The folks I mentioned in the last post are double-irrationals(the crazies). They have an agenda that supports one political party above all(see also: talk radio in America)-we see how that can be ruinous(see also: War On Terror). The two folks in question also avoid any form of government service and manage to cheat on their taxes. I find myself suddenly wanting to sing the national anthem.

Anyhow. About the evidence: It all boils down to those drills. Someone should really follow-up on that.

I'd have to disagree with you about the attacks fostering stability. If that was the goal(alright, it probably was the idea), then I'd say the strategy backfired. Rather, the attacks have provided a distraction from everything else, but it doesn't last forever. Already, other issues are beginning to fester in the minds of the public.

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Already, other issues are beginning to fester in the minds of the public.



Yeah, I [sign in to see URL] the North Korean pornographer Kim Jong Il and his missiles. And this rather strange image.
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(a brief lull in the class field trip?)

Actually, the issues have been ignored so long it's difficult to point to North Korea as being the biggest issue. Wouldn't it be deliciously evil if we could nuke them(false flag alert!) and make it appear that China did it.......

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Western intelligence propaganda.........[sign in to see URL],,30000-13531587,[sign in to see URL]....A shining example! This is why I don't believe half the crap they tell us over here. Do you remember the Bin Laden tape before the US elections? This is somewhat like that, it's been released for a purpose. It could be to stop a public inquiry which Blair and his cronies won't allow, but it's probably just been released to induce fear in the build up to tommorrows 7/7 aniversary.
Anyways, I've been thinking over the 7/7 attacks again and have come up with a theory as to what really [sign in to see URL] bombers were patsies, pure and simple. They were used as actors in those [sign in to see URL] mean sh!t, those drills were no coincidence. They were in london playing their roles of terrorists when all of sudden BANG!, their roles becomes real as bombs go off, probably hidden in the trains somewhere, as well as that bus. Hay presto! Suddenly everything becomes real, the actors are dead and the British Government and intelligence services can use the attack they had a hand in to their own gain over the people.
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It was simply allowed to happen.

Sh!t, if my first theory is true these actors were real dumbasses
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Honestly, I believe these tapes are carefully being placed in news. What's the bet that on September 10th we get a video of Bin [sign in to see URL] a music video of Bin Laden, perhaps doing somekind of mountain rap from his cave about how he hates disney and bikini clad women. Who's knows? I bet $2000000000000 that a Bin Laden tape appears on September 10th. If it doesn't you can keep me as somekind of work/sex slave.emoticon

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Well. A lot to think about. I favor the notion that the bombers were just that-bombers. However, the coincidental drills indicate some sort of coordination, or at least foreknowledge(any of which hasn't been suggested publicly) between those conducting drills and those wearing bombs. So at best, the story stinks. At worst, the Reptillians are going to dominate the world very soon.

The most innocent supposition would be that the government had some vague warning of the attacks through the intelligence services and then suggested the drills for that exact day to help contain the situation. This only makes sense if the identity of the bombers was unknown, but the date and locations were known. Of course, why admit anything?

Okay. Here's the bet: 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 paid to me by you if no Bin Laden tape appears on September 10, 2006. By appears, we mean the tape is released to either Western media or an arabic agency. The appearance must be a first release, either wide or limited, because I don't want to be plunged into eternal debt if the media drops the ball on September 9.

And about the sex slave thing: You can pledge that if you want. I can't pledge the same because I'm promised-out elsewheres.

Anyways. Until we hear Bin Laden say "Lion King sucked".....

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Well. A lot to think about. I favor the notion that the bombers were just that-bombers. However, the coincidental drills indicate some sort of coordination, or at least foreknowledge(any of which hasn't been suggested publicly) between those conducting drills and those wearing bombs. So at best, the story stinks. At worst, the Reptillians are going to dominate the world very soon.

The most innocent supposition would be that the government had some vague warning of the attacks through the intelligence services and then suggested the drills for that exact day to help contain the situation. This only makes sense if the identity of the bombers was unknown, but the date and locations were known. Of course, why admit anything?

Okay. Here's the bet: 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 paid to me by you if no Bin Laden tape appears on September 10, 2006. By appears, we mean the tape is released to either Western media or an arabic agency. The appearance must be a first release, either wide or limited, because I don't want to be plunged into eternal debt if the media drops the ball on September 9.

And about the sex slave thing: You can pledge that if you want. I can't pledge the same because I'm promised-out elsewheres.

Anyways. Until we hear Bin Laden say "Lion King sucked".....



I'm still in two minds over which theory I'd choose over the official story. For example, on the TV on 7/7 last friday there was an interview with a survivor of the Bus bombing and she didn't believe the official story and told the show hosts she believed "They were duped" and that the new video was Tanweer "reading from a script." That would indicate that they were hired for their roles in these drills. The other theory is that these people were terrorists and were allowed to attack.

Your theory of the drills being there to soften the blow doesn't make sense btw. Instead of that why couldn't they simply do stop and searches until they found the bombers, or shut down the underground.

To end this, I think there are a lot of unanswered questions but rather than dwell in theories think that there should be a transparent public inquiry which tackles these questions such as the drills. Problem is, Blair won't let the victims of 7/7, which is basically everyone, have an inquiry. Maybe he has something to hide?

Ah! That bet, that lovely bet. So you'll owe me, hmmm, 2,000,000,000,000,000,000 if Bin Laden does appear. Your on, although I don't how I'm gonna get the world's wealth in time for 9/11 if I lose. Anyways, whether I lose and you win, and I win and you we shall exchange the cheque with the money on at Ground Zero on 9/11 this year.

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Fair enough. And I'll suggest two more things(which don't disprove or confirm conspiracy): Tanweer, if a real terrorist, may have felt that his statement was important enough that he would write it out. Then read it on camera. If I were gonna die for some big cause, I'd WRITE a statement ahead of time, simply to be sure I captured my thoughts. If Tanweer was indeed an actor, then could we consider him a bad actor, and also condemn the casting director for his ineptitude?

Second point is this: No matter who is responsible for the attacks, shutting down the underground may not have suited whatever purpose. The pious government, suspecting attacks, may have opted to not disrupt traffic in order to avert panic. If true, they failed badly. The opposite of possibilities is that the evil authorities needed victims to make the attack relevant.

The Nice Theory(note the lack of evidence, and the artful way the suppositions support the official version): Tanweer and friends were not necessarily raving Muslims. Perhaps they also did not hate England. Otherwise, why live there? Let's continue to believe that Tanweer and company had grievances(it was once unbelievable that people have such fatal disagreements with government) with society, and disappointments of other sorts. Race, religion, economy, and other factors seperate one from common society. Then we find another truth: sometimes to exist in society can feel like losing your identity. Perhaps the boys didn't like the cameras that line the sidewalks, or government aid, or pizza. It's hard to know for sure now. Let's suppose that they know others that feel the same, and they wish to change things. So they acquire supplies with the intent of making their names eternal. They don't wait, but rather they spend time together maybe discussing their problems or playing X-Box. Assume also that these boys do not represent an island; they have daily lives. They interact with others. Someone, somewhere, hears of security drills to be conducted in London. 7/7. The bombings surprise everyone and also makes the government look like complete fools. The terrorists thus prove that the drills are useless, and the British government cannot protect it's citizens. Checkmate.

Blair's hidden secret: Either, the government was involved or, as implied above, they didn't see it coming. How many degrees of Masonic-ness are required for omniscence?

Overall, I guess more evidence is needed.

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