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I can't disagree that Kaufman is supposed to be Bush, but I do think that the character is also the same as the "evil rich guy" in the original Day script. He's simply placed in different situations. For example, he meets Cholo on the sly in Land, so we don't see him sitting with his entourage of former underwear models with alcohol and rich foods piled around his chair(as written in the original Day). Metropolis O'The Dead?

Anyways. About the subtext, my feelings are this: There is intended subtext, which is great and good. This makes the film relate-able for the mass audience. Then there's a kind of Freudian tendency amongst artists to turn one's deeper frustrations into art, for everyone to see. I'm beginning to think that I'll shatter the word count with this review, so I guess this leaves only one option: TWO ARTICLES.... The review, and then a seperate ditty entitled "Land Of The Romero".

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Then there's a kind of Freudian tendency amongst artists to turn one's deeper frustrations into art, for everyone to see. I'm beginning to think that I'll shatter the word count with this review, so I guess this leaves only one option: TWO ARTICLES.... The review, and then a seperate ditty entitled "Land Of The Romero".



I can't think of any piece of art I've done which isn't personal frustations expressed or the collective frustrations of the many. Without any expression art is just plane, for me anyway. Maybe it's man's inhumanity to man in Land - Neo-Conservatism? And the zombies with their growing intelligence the awakening of the people/dead?
--I saw a great documentary yesterday, which although sent me to sleep raised some interesting points. It was called 'The Oil Factor', try hunting it down if you can. Anyway, one man concluded that the occupation of middle-east must happen to prevent the collapsing of a civilization dependent on oil - the west. Everything is about power. Sacrifices, the dead, it'll happen. However, in the long run the west stays stable and doesn't fall apart.

Feel free to do the two articles btw.

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I have it! I've been mulling this sub-text thing over all morning and then I heard the voices in my head. Don't worry I haven’t gone crazy, but the voice said "A reflection of a society gone mad!" Then i remembered where I heard these words - the narrator from the Original Dawn of the Dead trailer. That's it; Romero's dead films reflect the society of the day. I was being specific before, yet now I'm more specific cause of the words of I heard in my head. Society. Or society and a specific problem, e.g. Racism-Night.
Just think about the city in Land of the Dead, it's a compact version of America today - Divided, fearful, corrupt, over protective. The Zombies they tore the country apart… now think about the after affects of 9/11 terror attacks (when Romero apparently did a re-write too btw).

America: Land of the Dead's City
Terrorists: Zombies
Power: Kaufman(rehashed up-to-date version of the original Day baddy)
White House: Fiddler's Green; the centre of ALL power.
People: Riley - He doesn't like the city, wants to escape/move on. Chollo - Wants the good life, yet won't get it.

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That's not what my voices say, but it's close enough. I guess.

You've pretty much nailed the film's subtext.

Anyways, I'll be kind to the film in the review, but I'll rip it a new one in the second article.

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That's good to hear.
I did watch it (Land) again the other day and noticed something which might relate to your healthcare system. In Britain it's free for all, so there is no divide; the rich are equal to the poor. Anyway, this may just relate to the poverty of the slum dwellers in Land, but thinking about it I'm not sure. The Irish guy's son is ill and coughing and Riley gives him some antibiotics. This is in your face though, so it could that Romero was making a protest. There's also another guy, who seemed ill too - The guy at the garage where Riley went to pick up his car only to find it had been stolen - Again, coughing his guts up.
This may just be mirroring society but I thought I'd raise it anyway.
Also, while looking at Capitalism is greater detail I came across a great illustration which pretty much explains it to anyone.
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Yeah. I noticed the medicine. I think it was in the script too. But I also note that I didn't see a hospital. Considering the apathy of the rich, and how they blindly cling to their old lives, perhaps there is no hospital or medical personnel. That might be an indication of what is really wrong with the film. The commentary is a bit forced. In Dawn, it seemed to happen so naturally.

I also wonder if Riley would've had fuel for his car.....

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I also wonder if Riley would've had fuel for his car.....



He was a supplier so he would've had access to it I would have thought. It isn't as though the film is about oil or anything. Besides, think of all the fuel that has been left about at petrol stations, since no is actually using it.



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Not a film about oil? You didn't watch the end of the movie? Oil is sort of important there in a very obvious way. Big Daddy thought so. In fact, Kaufman's death scene is probably the film's biggest anti-Bush commentary. I was very shocked when I read that in the script.

I wonder about Riley getting fuel for his car. He would steal the precious fluid from the underground tanks at any gas station. This raises several questions.

First, can he physically remove the fuel? Sure, he could syphon the fuel from the underground [sign in to see URL] he could get into it.

Second, would the fuel be use-able after five years of storage? Trust me, it has a shelf-life. In fact, various car parts have a shelf-life. Like batteries. Tires. Belts.

Third, how many stations would have gasoline? Remember that Land is a post-Night and Dawn world in which the apocalypse happened in a matter of weeks. In disaster situations, folks generally horde the basic necessities. Could fuel shipments get past the zombies to reach the nice brightly lit service stations? Being a life-long American, take my word for truth that truck drivers will often have more important work to attend [sign in to see URL] running for their lives.

I hereby predict a Land sequel akin to the classic Mad Max sequel, The Road Warrior, in which Riley and the woman quest for the oil. The oil would be held by a faux Bin Laden. A group of rich people would ask Riley to steal the oil for their use. Before Riley and woman escape, a cyborg from the future would kill him(or WILL HE?!?!), because the robot knows Riley to be the future leader of the resistance. Then the Colonel arrives and scares everyone with stories of Riley's Gulf War exploits. "He'll make your little war become a bloodbath" says the Colonel to Bin Laden. Then Bin Laden electrocutes the [sign in to see URL], because he wants him alive for more torture. Meanwhile, Riley finds the Keymaker. Thought he was dead? Then you realized that there was more... FINALLY, Riley reaches Bin Laden, and he's about to deal a magnificently brutal killing to old BL when Fake Bush's secret Clone Of Future Robot enters the fray. There is a massive three-way fighting sequence. And I mean MASSIVE. Bin Laden is killed very abruptly when the Clone Of Future Robot accidentally sits on him. Somewhere near the end of the film, someone accidentally kills Bill, too.

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Not a film about oil? You didn't watch the end of the movie? Oil is sort of important there in a very obvious way. Big Daddy thought so.



Holy crap, whoa. That went right over my head. I guess I didn't put two and two together that's all. my f1ck-up. thanks for reminding me. emoticon Puts a whole new perspective on the whole film now. Thanks. emoticon

What do you think Romero was trying to say with that then? That the west's imperialism for land rich of oil will bring its demise?

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No. Frankly, the film isn't that deep. Oil is just another resource that can be sold for more money. Money for Kaufman. Romero could've made some clarifications there. He seems to predict that greed, itself, will destroy America.

My biggest problem with the film is that I wanted to see people fix the problem. Instead, they're quite greedy, and Riley is a weird motherf*cker for sympathizing with zombies. Despite the film's ending, zombies are our enemies, no?

Isn't it a dark message that people and society aren't worth fighting for? Isn't it the easy path, to sit outside Fiddler's Green dreaming of living inside, surrounded by luxury? Lives aren't lived for that purpose, regardless of whether zombies walk the earth or not.

I say that this film isn't something that speaks to the people of today, but might hold be reflective of future generations, that is not five years from today but much further along.

All in all, Land is not social or political commentary. It is an angry attempt at political commentary that ends up as a comic book rendition of leftist paranoia.

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